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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In trading everything is about chance and risk. If you open a trade, you have a chance to lose or win money. The most important question is: How much money do you win in relation to the planned loss? That&#8217;s the chance-risk-ratio. First understand the chance-risk-ratio concept … To identify low risk entry points you [&#8230;]</p>
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<p>In trading everything is about <strong>chance and risk</strong>. If you open a trade, you have a chance to lose or win money. The most important question is: <strong>How much money do you win in relation to the planned loss?</strong> That&#8217;s the chance-risk-ratio.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">First understand the chance-risk-ratio concept …</h2>



<p>To identify low risk entry points you first have to <strong>understand the chance-risk-ratio</strong>. The concept is simple:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>Possible profit / planned loss = chance-risk-ratio.</p></blockquote>



<p>The possible profit is the money you will win if your trade works as expected. To get this number, you must subtract the target from your entry price. Example: $70 target – 50$ entry price = $20 profit.</p>



<p>The planned loss is the amount of money you are risking. It&#8217;s the difference between your entry price and stop loss. Example: $50 entry price – $45 stop loss = $5 planned loss or risk.</p>



<p>Now you have all you need. Here is your chance-risk-ratio:</p>



<blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"><p>$20 profit / $5 planned loss = 4.</p></blockquote>



<p>If your trade reached the target, the return will be 4 times of your initial risk. That&#8217;s a good chance-risk-ratio.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Why is the chance-risk-ratio important?</h2>



<p>You should only risk money if it&#8217;s attractive. <strong>Don&#8217;t place bets where you only get a small return</strong>. Of course it depends on the hit-rate but you want to calculate for the worst case.</p>



<p>If your hit-rate decreases, you need a higher chance-risk-ratio. Because it&#8217;s very difficult to maintain a high hit-rate over time, you want to consider this. Try to reach higher chance-risk-ration instead of having a high hit-rate. Then you have build-in a buffer for failure.<br></p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What&#8217;s a good chance-risk-ratio?</h2>



<p>That depends on you and your trading style. If you are a <strong>long-term trader</strong>, you often have a higher average chance-risk-ratio. If you are a <strong>short-term trader</strong>, you mostly have a lower average chance-risk-ratio and a higher hit-rate.</p>



<p>The same is true for trading styles. <strong>Trend followers</strong> often have a high chance-risk-ratio because they are following a trade for a longer time. A <strong>swing trader</strong> often has a lower chance-risk-ratio because he works with targets.</p>



<p>I personally don&#8217;t work with targets. Instead I apply a more trend following style. If a trade will return <strong>3-5 times my initial risk</strong>, it&#8217;s a good trade. My best trades will return <strong>10-20 times my initial risk</strong>.</p>



<p><strong>Paul Tudor Jones</strong> famously said, that he will at least aim for a 5 times chance-risk-ratio.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What&#8217;s low risk entry point?</h2>



<p>It&#8217;s simple: <strong>The smaller your planned loss or initial risk, the lower is the risk at the entry point.</strong></p>



<p>Don&#8217;t think that a trade with a low risk entry point has a smaller risk to fail. That&#8217;s nonsense. In the short term <strong>every trade has the same odds</strong>: 50%. It can be a winner or loser. Only over a large number of trades you will generate a hit-rate and edge.</p>



<p><strong>Focus on trades where you can place a stop loss very close to the entry point.</strong> That&#8217;s only possible if you select an entry where you see quickly if your trade works or not.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">3 examples of different entry points</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image"><a href="https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example.png"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" width="1024" height="398" src="https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example-1024x398.png" alt="Example with a 26% stop loss level" class="wp-image-258" srcset="https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example-1024x398.png 1024w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example-300x117.png 300w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example-768x298.png 768w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example-696x270.png 696w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example-1068x415.png 1068w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example-1081x420.png 1081w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example-600x233.png 600w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/VIOT-example.png 1578w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a><figcaption>The stop loss level is too far away (26%). That means the stock has to go up 78% to return a 3 times chance-risk-ratio. Possible, but not very likely.</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image"><img decoding="async" width="1024" height="400" src="https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SE-example-1024x400.png" alt="" class="wp-image-259" srcset="https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SE-example-1024x400.png 1024w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SE-example-300x117.png 300w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SE-example-768x300.png 768w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SE-example-696x272.png 696w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SE-example-1068x418.png 1068w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SE-example-1074x420.png 1074w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SE-example.png 1578w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>In this example the stop loss level is closer to the entry: 13%. If you want a 3 times chance-risk-ratio, the stock has to go up 39%. That&#8217;s possible and more likely.</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image"><img decoding="async" width="1024" height="401" src="https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CYBR-new-example-1024x401.png" alt="" class="wp-image-261" srcset="https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CYBR-new-example-1024x401.png 1024w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CYBR-new-example-300x117.png 300w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CYBR-new-example-768x301.png 768w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CYBR-new-example-696x273.png 696w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CYBR-new-example-1068x418.png 1068w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CYBR-new-example-1072x420.png 1072w, https://julian-komar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CYBR-new-example.png 1578w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>The stop loss level is close to the entry: Only 7%! It&#8217;s far enough to avoid a shake out in the daily fluctuations and give the stock enough room. For a 3 times chance-risk-ratio is has to go up only 21%.</figcaption></figure>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">How to select a valid stop loss level?</h2>



<p>I could write a whole own blog post about selecting stop loss levels. But remember: <strong>A stop loss level should be your insurance</strong>. It should show you clearly that the trade is not working and you have to exit immediately.</p>



<p>I personally only select trades where my <strong>stop loss level is less than 7% </strong>away. Often I exit a trade or sell a portion of my position at a drop of less than 5%. </p>



<p>If I select a good entry at the right time, the <strong>price will never come back to my entry price</strong>. Therefore something must be wrong if a stock drops 5-7% after my entry. I give enough room for daily fluctuations but not for corrections!</p>



<p>A simple and clear entry signal and a technical level close to the entry price are important. I mostly use simple chat patterns like flags, triangles or multiple tested resistance lines. For a stop loss I used the <strong>last low or a moving average like 10 or 20</strong>. That&#8217;s it.</p>



<p>If a trade is not working, you can&#8217;t do anything. Get out and try it again at a later point. The more important thing is that you have a close stop loss. If the trade is working instead, you have a great chance-risk-ratio.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">A low risk entry point needs discipline</h2>



<p>If you select a value for your maximum stop loss level, you <strong>created a rule</strong>. Every rule needs <strong>discipline to apply</strong> it. If you don&#8217;t do that, the rules is worthless.</p>



<p>I personally stick to my rules. <strong>I never open a position where the stop loss level is more than 7-10% away</strong>. 10% is the maximum I only allow for very volatile stocks. If a stop loss is more than 10% away I skip the trade and wait for a better entry.</p>



<p><strong>A low risk entry will not help you if you don&#8217;t have sound rules to select great stocks</strong>. You need rules to select potential winners which will generate a good chance-risk-ratio. If you created you rules for a maximum stop loss level, you can start to optimize your selection criteria for stocks. That will increase you hit rate over time.</p>
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